I don’t think it’s that complicated. Nobody walks around the world actively doing what they believe is the wrong thing to do, everyone is doing what they believe is the right thing according to their life experience, and Homelander is no different. We are lucky enough that we have got such a great writing team, led by Eric Kripke, and he’s just not interested in having one-dimensional characters. It would be very easy to become a bit of a mustache-twirling archvillain, but that’s also very limited, you can’t really do anything with it.  So it’s always figuring out what made him the way he is, what he wants to do and why he wants to do it, and then how he’s going to do it, how he’s going to achieve his goals.  And I think just creating a full world and a full experience and backstory for the character really allows all that stuff to come out.

How do you connect personally with him?

I got told not to judge your character, but it’s quite difficult sometimes not to pass judgment when he is allowing a plane full of people to plummet out of the sky into the ocean – I think that’s very clearly an egregious act. But as for how he relates to me, I don’t know. Maybe … well, I think for one thing, I definitely put on as much of a front, in that I definitely put out the idea that everything is going better with me than it often is – I try not to bog other people down with my problems.  So maybe there is that duality that he and I share. Homelander is really putting on a huge front – I don’t think it’s as extreme, but I think maybe that’s something that Homelander shares with everyone, actually, because everyone’s got a public and private space to some extent.

One of the things that audiences enjoy of the show is its irreverence – there is no limit to it.

Yeah, we’re not bound to the same limitations that normal superhero movies and shows are, because their moral north is very true, they are very morally upright.  There is no moral ambiguity in the show: good people are good and bad people are bad, and bad things happen to bad people and there is definitely a sense of mortality. It is a show for adults: we are not playing to a young audience, so we can really get away with a lot more, which makes for a bit of a playground for the writers. I think they fully exploit that. And we do a lot of ad libbing. One of the best lines in the show was ad libbed by Jack Quaid. It’s very, very rude, but it’s just an example of the playful atmosphere on the set and the creativity involved across the board.  There’s no ego on the set. And that breeds a real confidence in taking risks and not being afraid to fail. I think that’s a great position to be in to embark on any creative endeavor.

I can’t imagine what Homelander went through when he was growing up in a lab, surrounded by scientists checking him all the time. Do you have to go to that place when playing the character, or not?

I was raised in a good family, so of course it’s really nice just doing homework and piecing it all together with as much detail as you can in terms of backstory and then researching different psychological conditions that could come out of that and trying to service them. But there’s also a fine line between servicing the backstory and overplaying it. I don’t think Homelander is a character that should be redeemed. I think he’s pretty despicable. So while I want people to understand the character and why he is the way he is, I don’t want them to feel sorry for him. But I really gravitate towards shows and films that don’t tell the audience how to feel: they present a question and let the audience do the work, and if they feel something, they feel it, and if they don’t, they don’t.

As an actor, would you like to experience the stardom that Homelander has, or are you fine as you are?

I am a very private person, so not having my personal life under a microscope really works for me. But we all have our ambitions, and I guess the irony for me is that in order for me to get what I want to get workwise, and to get what I want to get out of my career, inevitably I am going to have to give up some of that privacy. I would love to somehow navigate that whereby I would get to work on the jobs that I want to work on without being under the microscope – but I don’t know how I would be able to do that. So we will see. At the moment everything is very mellow, I think. To be honest, it’s pretty great at the moment with Homelander, because I wear glasses, so nobody can tell it’s me.  (laughs)

I wouldn’t recognize you at the store.

Yeah, exactly. And my hair, it’s cut strangely for this film I am doing. Also, I have brown hair, and I think people really identify Homelander as that dude, that guy with the blonde hair. I’m really very dissimilar to that in real life. To be honest, I know the rest of the cast are getting a lot more recognition, because they are a lot more visible than I am. So it’s fine for me at the moment.

What do you think it says about the New Zealand acting industry that in The Boys both you and Karl Urban are from there?

I think it says Kiwis are awesome. (laughs) I’ve known Karl for years, actually, and I’ve always wanted to work with him. He’s a great actor, and we kind of came up together around the same people. It’s fantastic just having someone.  So, I thoroughly enjoy having him there.  And look, New Zealand has a fantastic film industry, because the industry is small and it’s pretty fragile, but we have got some incredibly creative talent down there and creatives, that’s why so many international films go shoot down there.  And I think Peter Jackson with Lord of the Rings kind of put us on the map, that was about 1998, 1999 wasn’t it?  So it’s really just grown from there.  And now we’ve got James Cameron doing Avatar down there, the Hobbit movies were down there, there’s a lot of films that go down there.  And for good reason – we’ve got fantastic talent and the crews are second to none down there.  It’s a great place for overseas productions to come and get their film made by extremely talented professionals. Let’s face it, I am a proud Kiwi – it’s one of the best countries in the world. It really is a really unique special place.